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hi everybody welcome indeed to night

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vision radio I was so happy you could be

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with us again tonight I want to remind

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you that we're live in the chat room at

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room our producer MJ does as well and

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there's a great crew in there I got to

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warn you though these guys are smart

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they know their stuff so they always

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come up with some great questions for us

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and we'd love to have your questions too

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and your comments in the chat room about

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the show tonight so please join us at

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inception radio network calm now also I

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wanted to say that you know every week I

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post information about the show on my

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Facebook page and I wanted to invite you

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to you know join me on Facebook and

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there's two Renee Barnett's actually

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with the name spelled exactly the same

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way with re and e VAR n ET tee but

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you'll notice my picture I'm got on the

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little Derby hat and I'm waving so

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you'll you'll you'll find the right one

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and be sure and and also like the night

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vision radio page on Facebook for us it

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helps us out and helps it helps us keep

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going so I appreciate that I'd love to

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see you on Facebook and I'd love to be

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your friend of Facebook I I don't have

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that many slots left in my friendship

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thing I think you only have 5,000

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friends and I'm almost there but I would

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love to have you guys join me so we can

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talk and I can hear your stories you can

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keep on top of what's going on on night

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vision and you know you've heard me talk

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now if you've listened to the show for

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several weeks or actually months I guess

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now about the Facebook page or the

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website return of to troubadour calm and

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about the songwriting contest that

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they're having it's really cool it's a

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great in this great grand prize I think

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it's $5,000 in gold so they're looking

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for a song that is you know uplifting

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something that inspires Humanity in a

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positive way

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and if you've got a song or if you're a

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songwriter I think there's still time to

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get your work in I believe the deadline

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is like December 15th but what I really

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wanted to say didn't mean to go on so

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long about it because at the break a

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good friend of mine is going to talk

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about the contest and he can do a whole

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lot better job than I can and he's a

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rock star so you gotta listen to him

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personal friend of mine anyway I'm

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excited about tonight's show I had a

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great conversation yesterday with our

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guests that are coming on and I had just

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had to bite my tongue to keep from

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asking like a zillion questions because

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the the story is so interesting and I

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remember it from a long time ago when

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the book came out by Raymond Fowler

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called the Andreas and affair and it was

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one of the well and still to this day is

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one of the best investigated and best

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documented cases of alien abduction that

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there's ever been and what's really

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interesting about it as well is that it

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before so that was before we had all the

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books about alien abduction before the

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knew what greys looked like all that

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stuff so this was pure information that

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was coming out and not you know put into

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Betty's consciousness by something that

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it just wasn't even happening at the

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time so I want to welcome my guest

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tonight I have betty andreas and luca

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and her husband bob look on the phone

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thank you so much and welcome to the

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well Betty I mean you know it's amazing

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you know that I finally got a chance to

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speak with you after reading that book

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so many years ago and to this day you

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alien abduction cases I've met a lot of

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people who feel they've had that

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I was fortunate to get to know Betty

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hill of the famous other Betty Betty and

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be couple and Travis Walton and there

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there like those that I just mentioned

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been a little bit fuzzy but these are

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the cases that really stand out in my

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mind as thinking okay there's something

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genuine and so I gotta say you know when

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I got a chance to talk with you

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yesterday that I was really excited and

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it was really nice to hear the actual

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people behind the story so I'm gonna

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start with you Betty if it's okay and

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just talk about you know I know you had

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some experiences in childhood but can we

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focus on that big incident that was sort

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of the culminating event with your

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entire family involved I think you had

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seven kids and your mother and father

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right they were they were deal with me

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because my husband had had an accident

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and so he was in the hospital for quite

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a while and with the seven kids trying

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to make things go strong and right my

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mother and father came to stay with me

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and it was during that time they also

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with my yeah what happened was the

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lights we had though the power was going

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the kids were watching televisions my

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mother and father were sitting in the

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living room with him and I was fair and

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suddenly the power went off and we

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started to see a reddish orange light

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coming in through the kitchen window

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toward the pantry and we thought oh

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there must be a fire or yeah police are

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out there or something my father had

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me and went into the kitchen and

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was going on he was looking out the

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window to see if it was a the police or

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fire truck or making the red light

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happened and he happen to see these

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little small beings coming down the hill

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and he thought that they were kids

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dressed up in Halloween costumes as Moon

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happened was I was out in the kitchen

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five beams entered my house right

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through the door they did not open it

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they just came right through the door

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and I spent they're astonished because

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wondering what is going on what is this

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however in my mind I thought scripture

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you know to help me not fear so much and

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I heard entertain the strangers but they

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may be angels unawares and Who am I to

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say what angels as foster looked like

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that it didn't look like an angel to me

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said the beings were standing there and

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the leader was talking to me through the

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mind and I'm wondering well what do they

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want and what I heard more or less

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through the mind was that they wanted to

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some food and that's what I was thinking

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what it was and so I got some meat from

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the refrigerator and put it on the stove

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the smoke came up from the meat and all

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of a sudden the beings jumped back like

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straddled what what's going on and then

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he again talked with me through the mind

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and he says no no we don't want that

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tried by fire we want knowledge tried by

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fire and so

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whoa what could that be and then I

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thought well maybe the Bible I've got

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the Bible in the other room that's been

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around for a long time so it's like it's

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been tried by fire to to be able to last

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hundreds of years and so we went into

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living room I looked over at the couch

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and all my children plus my mother were

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sitting there as if they were just

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suspended in animation was going on they

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weren't moving at all and this kind of

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worried me at that time and what

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happened was the beings came in and

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stood there with me and I I took the

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Bible off the end table and passed it to

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the leader and when he reached out his

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hand I could see three fingers so I was

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seeing what he looked like he had her on

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a blue suit and they had golden colored

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belt with a sash on it and I noticed

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also they had like an eagle emblem on

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their the upper part of their arm on

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their suit and what I did was I cast him

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that Bible and he in turn put it in his

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hand and he waved his hand over it and

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on top of it came three other small

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books and he passed them to the three

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other beings that were beside so so so

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what happened was he was able to swipe

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his hand over the the book the Bible

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book that you handed him and instantly

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copies were manifested and he was

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passing them along to his colleagues

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there and they were three of them but

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what the other one evidently had gone

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over to where my father was in the

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pantry area there was a half wall there

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and in the kitchen area inside there and

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if I did not see him at the time so

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evidently the being had been left there

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with him when they came in when they

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came into the living room and he

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custom to the three beings that were

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standing beside him and they the pages

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just moved one after another after

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another and it would look like white

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light I didn't see any writing on it

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just white light was going at it has

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each page moved and I don't know what

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they were doing there was no words there

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so I don't know exactly how he was able

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to transform the Bible into those three

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same books but that's what he did and

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then mmm I was really worried with

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everybody just Stan you know sitting on

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the couch they are not moving at all and

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so the leaders saw that I was a little

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bit nervous about that and he took my

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daughter Becky out of that state and she

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stood up and she was watching what was

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going on but she was just standing there

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and he gave me a thin blue book to hold

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on to and he said to me that you're

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allowed to keep this for ten days and

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then I will take it back but I think it

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was some type of initiation whatever was

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in it I was supposed to grasp as much

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information from it now how big was that

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book anyway what did it look like it was

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like a flat cover to it it was very

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small oh I'd say about five five inches

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by three or four inches it was in very

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thin and in you said when you looked and

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it you couldn't recognize what it said

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right well I was seeing some pictures in

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there and it was some strange writing so

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what I was drawing from it was because

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of the pictures you know being an

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amateur artist I was trying to figure

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out what are these things you know and

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looking at it but then after that I put

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the small book down on the end table and

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I don't know what happened to the Bible

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if they took it with them I not that was

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Becky's Bible and it wasn't there any

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longer hmm now you mentioned you know

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Becky because they had actually sort of

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let her come back to animation when you

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had given them I guess

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did you say something to indicate that

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you know you were upset about seeing

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your family in that state or did they

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just sense it from you that you know

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that bothered you that you were seeing

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your kids and your mom sitting there you

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know basically like stones you know yeah

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I think that the leaders sense that I

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was upset to see them just standing and

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sitting there you know so to assure me

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that they were all right and that's why

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I think they took Becky out of that

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state of suspended animation hmm and you

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know it's funny because I don't know

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your other children I I do know Betty

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and I know that she has some you know

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kind of extra abilities and do you think

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that because she was the one that you

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know had the encounter in that way that

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she that added to her abilities in some

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way or do you think they chose her

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because she already had those abilities

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well the thing is Becky had dream I had

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after the experience I had just memory

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of one of the beings being there and I

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knew what it looked like with a large

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head the big black eyes and everything

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and that memory I had and the thing was

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Becky came to me about three or four

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days after and she says mommy I'm having

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a terrible dream

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she explained what it was that she saw

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these strange people in her house and

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with the big eyes and the big head and I

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realized oh something happened you know

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and I remembered the thin book I had

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that I had hidden in the closet because

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they told me I had it for ten days and I

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didn't want it you know just laying

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around there so I had put it in my

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closet and and I was remembering just

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the one being at first you know after it

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all had happened and the thing was is

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she told me well I had a dream and I'm

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afraid you know it's okay honey I'm

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going to show you something but don't

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you tell anybody and so I went into the

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bedroom with her and I got the thin blue

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book down from the closet and I held it

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out and she put her hand on it and when

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she did all of a sudden she had sparkles

329
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all over her hand now I don't know if

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she received some kind of a touch from

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the book at that point or what happened

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but she is green was it when you said

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sparkles was it like like an electrical

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thing or was it like fairy dust or what

335
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was it like well I would think it would

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be more like a dust with but they were

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very sparkly on her hand and you know it

338
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amazed me I mean when I held it I I

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think it sparkly things on me but Becky

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did and I said now don't please don't

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tell anything and don't tell the your

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brothers and sisters because I don't

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want you to frighten them you know and

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as I said afterwards after the whole

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experience I went through what I had

346
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remembered was just one being with the

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big eyes and the big hit and at that

348
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time I had seen an article now this is

349
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a few years after I had seen an article

350
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that dr. Hynek had put in a newspaper

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asking if anything anyone has seen any

352
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strange things - please write to him and

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this is what I did I drew a picture of

354
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one of the beings that I had seen and

355
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drew all the description of it and I

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sent it in to the Center for UFO studies

357
00:19:38,250 --> 00:19:34,929
and it was three years later it took

358
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three years before anybody started to

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work with it and there was a team of

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investigators in Massachusetts that were

361
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looking for anything concerning a hybrid

362
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and so they got in touch with dr. Hynek

363
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and he in turn sent him my letter that

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he had filed away for three years and

365
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that's when they got in touch with me

366
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and asked me if I would undergo

367
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regressive hypnosis to see what had

368
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happened hmm

369
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and was there a hybrid aspect to your

370
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story well I know that they checked me I

371
00:20:23,730 --> 00:20:22,090
was taken aboard the craft and they

372
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checked me with me told us of

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procreation and they were kind of

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stunned they pulled out like a spool

375
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with some kind of material on it like

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web-like material on it and it seemed as

377
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if they were reading it or something and

378
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they spend more or less that something

379
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was missing and what it was is I had had

380
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a hysterectomy

381
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oh wow hmm so you think if that had not

382
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happened that might have been part of

383
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what they were going to do with you it's

384
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a possibility yes that's a very big

385
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:12,940
possibility mmm and now did when you're

386
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on the craft you nobody else from your

387
00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:17,410
family was in there

388
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right no no one but just me and being

389
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and when was it that you got to the

390
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point was it on this particular occasion

391
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that you were taken to see the being

392
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that you or that they termed the one it

393
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was during this experience yes I was

394
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taken before the one and it was Brian

395
00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:51,160
you described that that part of the

396
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experience

397
00:21:57,180 --> 00:21:55,090
sure well first of all they had me

398
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aboard the craft and we went through

399
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this green atmosphere and we were on a

400
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track there was two beings it was one in

401
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:04,330
front of me and one in back for me

402
00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:06,880
and we had gone through some other areas

403
00:22:12,570 --> 00:22:09,900
and they had a black hood on their heads

404
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for some reason they didn't give me any

405
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:15,580
because I had dark long hair and we're

406
00:22:20,550 --> 00:22:18,010
riding along walking on I shouldn't say

407
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:20,560
walking with is more like riding we were

408
00:22:25,710 --> 00:22:23,410
standing and moving along and it was a

409
00:22:31,530 --> 00:22:25,720
green atmosphere and there was like a

410
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green ocean underneath the track that

411
00:22:36,510 --> 00:22:34,630
ran along and I looked off to the

412
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left-hand side first of all I saw

413
00:22:43,380 --> 00:22:40,000
something that looked like a it looked

414
00:22:45,420 --> 00:22:43,390
like a plane of some kind and you're

415
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:45,430
playing or something of some crying kind

416
00:22:50,970 --> 00:22:48,130
in the green atmosphere but as we moved

417
00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:50,980
along I looked over to the left and

418
00:22:59,640 --> 00:22:54,750
there was a city there with large domes

419
00:23:02,610 --> 00:22:59,650
in pinnacle of like and the the tracks

420
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:02,620
were running in and out of the city it

421
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:05,110
was quite a distance from where the

422
00:23:11,850 --> 00:23:08,080
track was that we were on and we're

423
00:23:15,660 --> 00:23:11,860
right in mid air right you know moving

424
00:23:17,790 --> 00:23:15,670
along on this track and the thing is we

425
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:17,800
kept on moving and then all of a sudden

426
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:23,050
I also saw pyramid type buildings on

427
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:27,890
some land and there was like a head

428
00:23:35,930 --> 00:23:33,290
like a Gyptian head with this kind of

429
00:23:39,610 --> 00:23:35,940
headpiece they would wear like a

430
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:39,620
kerchief and that was a bull on top of a

431
00:23:44,420 --> 00:23:42,240
three-sided pyramid only this

432
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:44,430
three-sided period Mendel is strange

433
00:23:51,980 --> 00:23:48,960
because it had like white siding on the

434
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:51,990
side of it and it's a flat in the front

435
00:23:57,650 --> 00:23:55,890
and then indented and and and dented on

436
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:57,660
the other side to make the other two

437
00:24:03,800 --> 00:23:59,760
sides so it was a three-sided pyramid

438
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:03,810
and then that head was on the top of it

439
00:24:10,790 --> 00:24:06,930
we continue to move and as we moved

440
00:24:15,170 --> 00:24:10,800
along it was getting very bright and

441
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:15,180
beautiful it's the atmosphere was just

442
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:18,810
beautiful green and as we moved along I

443
00:24:25,790 --> 00:24:22,400
could see also these beautiful crystals

444
00:24:29,330 --> 00:24:25,800
in mid-air they were just there in

445
00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:29,340
midair and we're moving toward them and

446
00:24:35,150 --> 00:24:33,150
as we move toward them I could see they

447
00:24:37,820 --> 00:24:35,160
were different colors were shining all

448
00:24:41,330 --> 00:24:37,830
around from them it's really beautiful

449
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:41,340
and by the way I have experienced that

450
00:24:50,150 --> 00:24:45,600
once again but anyway we move through

451
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:50,160
that area and move closer toward very

452
00:24:56,990 --> 00:24:54,210
very bright light and the light as we

453
00:25:02,480 --> 00:24:57,000
move toward that bright night I know

454
00:25:04,550 --> 00:25:02,490
this may sound so unusual and crazy but

455
00:25:08,410 --> 00:25:04,560
this is what happened all I can do is

456
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:08,420
explain it and up ahead was this huge

457
00:25:15,490 --> 00:25:12,930
bird a huge look like an eagle and it

458
00:25:17,810 --> 00:25:15,500
had its wings down and I could see the

459
00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:17,820
fluttering of the feathers on the wings

460
00:25:25,670 --> 00:25:20,580
as it was the wings were down almost

461
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:25,680
like it was protecting somehow because

462
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:27,810
there was bright light in back of it

463
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:29,970
that kept streaking out in all different

464
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:32,850
directions real bright white light and

465
00:25:41,149 --> 00:25:38,450
it was like that ego the huge bird was

466
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:41,159
helping to keep it

467
00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:44,159
down from getting too bright and it

468
00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:48,809
became extremely warm and as I move

469
00:25:56,330 --> 00:25:52,440
closer the the two smaller beings moved

470
00:25:58,879 --> 00:25:56,340
to the side off the track and took this

471
00:26:01,489 --> 00:25:58,889
woods off of their head and I was

472
00:26:04,099 --> 00:26:01,499
supposed to go up closer to the Eagle

473
00:26:07,129 --> 00:26:04,109
that was there but it was getting so hot

474
00:26:09,710 --> 00:26:07,139
I could barely stand it and they were

475
00:26:12,589 --> 00:26:09,720
all sparks of light flying all over the

476
00:26:16,219 --> 00:26:12,599
place besides the bright light in back

477
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:16,229
of it it seemed like it was protecting

478
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:19,710
somehow from that bright light getting

479
00:26:24,259 --> 00:26:22,289
to me or something

480
00:26:28,129 --> 00:26:24,269
it was just stringing with all the

481
00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:28,139
lights you know all around like that and

482
00:26:34,909 --> 00:26:31,769
then suddenly it was getting so so warm

483
00:26:37,999 --> 00:26:34,919
I don't know what happened if I passed

484
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:38,009
out or what happened but the next thing

485
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:43,200
I remember waking and there's a huge

486
00:26:50,239 --> 00:26:46,710
pile gray pile of ashes that were still

487
00:26:52,999 --> 00:26:50,249
burning and I'm wondering you know what

488
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:53,009
is going on this is so strange

489
00:27:03,979 --> 00:26:57,840
and out of those ashes was a huge thick

490
00:27:07,969 --> 00:27:03,989
grey worm that came forth and then the

491
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:07,979
light was all around and all of a sudden

492
00:27:16,219 --> 00:27:12,570
I heard somebody call my name and he

493
00:27:18,979 --> 00:27:16,229
called my name very again and I'm

494
00:27:21,259 --> 00:27:18,989
wondering what is going on I'm fearful

495
00:27:24,229 --> 00:27:21,269
at that point because the light is so

496
00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:24,239
bright and someone is talking to me but

497
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:26,989
I can't see any figure or form just

498
00:27:39,409 --> 00:27:32,369
extremely bright light and the farm the

499
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:39,419
the boy said to me Betty Betty I have

500
00:27:46,909 --> 00:27:43,289
chosen you to show the world and then

501
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:46,919
after I thought what is what is this is

502
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:51,089
it God is what is this that is happening

503
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:54,690
and he says you have seen and

504
00:28:00,620 --> 00:27:57,450
you have her do you understand and I

505
00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:00,630
said no I don't understand I don't even

506
00:28:09,290 --> 00:28:04,740
know why I am here and at that point I

507
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:09,300
thought it must be the Lord that is

508
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:14,010
there and it just was such a strange

509
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,450
experience it's very hard to explain it

510
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:20,640
because I feel it each time I do try to

511
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:27,110
explain how how extremely unusual it was

512
00:28:33,740 --> 00:28:31,410
after that I went back with two small

513
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:33,750
beings that were dressed in silver suits

514
00:28:41,660 --> 00:28:38,880
at that time they had been in the the

515
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:41,670
room where I had been examined and

516
00:28:49,250 --> 00:28:44,970
everything and those beings were wearing

517
00:28:52,970 --> 00:28:49,260
just a silver suit and one had been in

518
00:28:57,020 --> 00:28:52,980
front of me a one in back of me and we

519
00:29:01,040 --> 00:28:57,030
started back to through the green

520
00:29:05,450 --> 00:29:01,050
atmosphere and from the green atmosphere

521
00:29:09,260 --> 00:29:05,460
we went into this area it was a swirling

522
00:29:11,660 --> 00:29:09,270
wind like and we moved right through it

523
00:29:13,940 --> 00:29:11,670
the beans are those two beings had put

524
00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:13,950
the black hoods back on their heads and

525
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:17,640
we moved into this red atmosphere it was

526
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:20,970
a vibrating red we had been in there

527
00:29:26,750 --> 00:29:23,970
when we came through in the first place

528
00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:26,760
and there were these strange little

529
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:29,100
creatures crawling all over and there

530
00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:30,930
were some buildings there but there was

531
00:29:37,070 --> 00:29:33,720
no vegetation at all in this area it was

532
00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:37,080
just square buildings with wood windows

533
00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:40,860
just openings like a window and they

534
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:42,840
were crawling all over the place and

535
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:45,330
they looked very strange they were

536
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:48,510
bright red they had two stalks right by

537
00:29:53,180 --> 00:29:50,340
the neck they had two stalks that came

538
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:53,190
up and their eyes were on the ends of

539
00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:57,200
those stalks and they were very fearful

540
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:00,960
to me because I thought well they could

541
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you know the beans had these silver

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suits on plus the black hoods but they

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didn't provide me with an

544
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thing like that you know no good to

545
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cover myself and it seemed like they

546
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were covering themselves because of this

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red atmosphere and these creatures that

548
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we were passing through to get to the

549
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other side oh my gosh this is all so

550
00:30:29,199 --> 00:30:26,899
amazing Betty we're gonna have to take a

551
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:29,209
break but we're gonna continue with this

552
00:30:32,349 --> 00:30:30,559
story and I want to hear a little bit

553
00:30:35,499 --> 00:30:32,359
more about that one when we get back but

554
00:30:38,349 --> 00:30:35,509
also I think we ought to give Bob a

555
00:30:40,449 --> 00:30:38,359
chance to talk and but if you don't tell

556
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us a little bit about his experience and

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also what happened you know what's

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this went on so including some

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which is it's really quite terrible it

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643
00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:45,260
guests betty andreas and Luca and Bob

644
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:47,870
Luca they're talking with us about their

645
00:35:54,070 --> 00:35:51,250
experiences with alien abduction and

646
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:54,080
subsequent issues that have come into

647
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:56,000
play since then

648
00:36:03,700 --> 00:35:59,200
in other words harassment by certain

649
00:36:07,470 --> 00:36:03,710
agencies and other shadowy people so but

650
00:36:09,820 --> 00:36:07,480
before we get into the bad stuff Betty

651
00:36:13,660 --> 00:36:09,830
could you tell us a little bit more when

652
00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:13,670
you were in the presence of who you

653
00:36:20,410 --> 00:36:17,060
called the one can you tell me what it

654
00:36:22,510 --> 00:36:20,420
was that you were feeling I know before

655
00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:22,520
you you had been afraid because you

656
00:36:26,110 --> 00:36:23,990
didn't know what was going on here was

657
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:26,120
this gigantic bird and all this stuff

658
00:36:32,650 --> 00:36:29,450
going on in this bright light and then

659
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:32,660
but once you got in the presence of that

660
00:36:40,270 --> 00:36:36,130
being what was your feeling an emotion

661
00:36:43,210 --> 00:36:40,280
well after he said I have chosen you to

662
00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:43,220
show the world I'm just wondering what

663
00:36:53,620 --> 00:36:46,910
is going on you know I'm just just a

664
00:36:56,050 --> 00:36:53,630
young young woman how can I be used to

665
00:36:58,750 --> 00:36:56,060
show the world something and as time

666
00:37:01,870 --> 00:36:58,760
went by I had many more encounters as

667
00:37:04,750 --> 00:37:01,880
you know this in five books written I've

668
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:04,760
got Bob and I are working on the sixth

669
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:07,520
or because I've had another experience

670
00:37:11,950 --> 00:37:09,290
with the one and I think it's more of a

671
00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:11,960
personal experience where it was

672
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:16,630
directed directly to me but you know it

673
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:21,530
has been hard and as we get older it's

674
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:26,510
hard for me to remember oh well isn't

675
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:29,530
that true for all of us

676
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:34,400
is extremely important and yes I think I

677
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:39,290
fear because of the now I know and I

678
00:37:42,910 --> 00:37:41,930
believe I know because I was given

679
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:42,920
something that

680
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:48,290
I will be putting into the book how

681
00:37:54,370 --> 00:37:52,880
great the one is mm-hmm

682
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:54,380
when you say you were given something

683
00:38:03,430 --> 00:37:57,440
you mean in terms of knowledge in terms

684
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:03,440
of yes knowledge and also in being an

685
00:38:12,849 --> 00:38:08,079
amateur artist I started off with a

686
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:12,859
picture and asking the one to please

687
00:38:18,670 --> 00:38:15,920
show me what it is all about and it

688
00:38:20,829 --> 00:38:18,680
started to expand and expand and expand

689
00:38:24,730 --> 00:38:20,839
and it opened up more and more to me and

690
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:24,740
that's what I hope might be extremely

691
00:38:32,289 --> 00:38:29,359
helpful for the world oh that's that's

692
00:38:35,319 --> 00:38:32,299
good you know I wanted to ask you if you

693
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:35,329
felt that they'd given you any

694
00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:38,450
information that you know the rest of us

695
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:42,230
need to know that would help us or do

696
00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:44,089
you feel like they aren't here to help

697
00:38:48,970 --> 00:38:46,910
us or because it sounds like your

698
00:38:53,770 --> 00:38:48,980
experience was generally positive it's

699
00:38:56,740 --> 00:38:53,780
strange but very positive yeah it was

700
00:39:00,190 --> 00:38:56,750
very positive it's just that when you're

701
00:39:03,130 --> 00:39:00,200
in and with the unknown you know you

702
00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:03,140
tend to fear somewhat you know because

703
00:39:10,839 --> 00:39:04,670
you you don't know what's going to

704
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:10,849
happen we're just human he did give some

705
00:39:17,470 --> 00:39:15,650
things he spoke about where there those

706
00:39:19,660 --> 00:39:17,480
particular beings that our kids are some

707
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:19,670
nature and all natural forms so

708
00:39:24,309 --> 00:39:22,160
evidently they watch over the earth and

709
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:24,319
and what's happening and can see the

710
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:26,720
problems that we have you know and what

711
00:39:34,660 --> 00:39:29,930
we're doing to the planet so a lot of

712
00:39:37,660 --> 00:39:34,670
these things they were showing you know

713
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:37,670
for me to understand that we're in

714
00:39:48,130 --> 00:39:40,250
trouble right now you know but things

715
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:48,140
can change if we can change do you feel

716
00:39:56,170 --> 00:39:50,480
like they're able to intervene in any

717
00:39:58,510 --> 00:39:56,180
way they do in some respect because

718
00:39:59,740 --> 00:39:58,520
keeps us in nature and all natural from

719
00:40:03,490 --> 00:39:59,750
they've been here since our very

720
00:40:10,049 --> 00:40:03,500
beginning and so no a lot of people

721
00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:10,059
think well those are angels the thing is

722
00:40:15,970 --> 00:40:13,670
what else is there you know and a lot of

723
00:40:20,319 --> 00:40:15,980
people don't realize that God has made

724
00:40:24,339 --> 00:40:20,329
many things and many the human race the

725
00:40:26,980 --> 00:40:24,349
angelic race the the beings being

726
00:40:30,370 --> 00:40:26,990
angelic race could have different looks

727
00:40:34,059 --> 00:40:30,380
and different degrees of what their jobs

728
00:40:42,029 --> 00:40:34,069
are to do we you know he's not limited

729
00:40:47,019 --> 00:40:42,039
on what he creates right well you know

730
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:47,029
it would it would be I guess in a way if

731
00:40:50,170 --> 00:40:48,710
something happened I mean I would think

732
00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:50,180
if something like that happened to me

733
00:40:57,130 --> 00:40:54,470
then later I might start to question you

734
00:41:01,059 --> 00:40:57,140
know was you know was I dreaming

735
00:41:04,059 --> 00:41:01,069
did you know am I going crazy but what

736
00:41:08,529 --> 00:41:04,069
you had was a real gift in that because

737
00:41:10,690 --> 00:41:08,539
they did allow Becky to sort of come

738
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:10,700
back to consciousness as well during the

739
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:13,130
incident you never had to really

740
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:14,690
question whether something really

741
00:41:20,170 --> 00:41:17,690
happened or not because there was always

742
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:20,180
this other person that it happened to as

743
00:41:23,470 --> 00:41:22,970
well so it wasn't like okay I'm not

744
00:41:29,289 --> 00:41:23,480
crazy

745
00:41:32,980 --> 00:41:29,299
yeah I mean what happened when she was a

746
00:41:38,049 --> 00:41:32,990
baby she was just about 2 or 3 years old

747
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:38,059
and the thing was she we were living in

748
00:41:46,930 --> 00:41:44,240
the apartment ground apartment and I was

749
00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:46,940
home with the children and the two were

750
00:41:53,170 --> 00:41:49,430
born at that time which was Becky and my

751
00:41:57,130 --> 00:41:53,180
son Jimmy and she was taken out of the

752
00:42:02,200 --> 00:41:57,140
house and somebody came knocking at the

753
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:02,210
door and I had I was waiting for the

754
00:42:06,279 --> 00:42:04,490
kids to wake up and so I laid down for

755
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,289
her briefly and I must have fallen

756
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:08,480
asleep somebody was knocking on the door

757
00:42:12,460 --> 00:42:10,490
and I went to the door and

758
00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:12,470
and it was a woman who I did not know

759
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:15,940
but she said your child is up in the

760
00:42:22,510 --> 00:42:19,520
sandbox playing and she is naked so I

761
00:42:25,170 --> 00:42:22,520
rushed out of the house and scooped her

762
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:25,180
up and brought her into the house and

763
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:28,490
the thing was there was no way she could

764
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:30,890
get out of two locked doors and then all

765
00:42:35,980 --> 00:42:33,170
the windows were closed and locked it

766
00:42:39,070 --> 00:42:35,990
for her age to be able to get out of her

767
00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:39,080
crib and and go out there to play in the

768
00:42:46,810 --> 00:42:43,640
sandbox something happened and her

769
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:46,820
experiences are written in the Andreasen

770
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:50,450
legacy she also underwent regressive

771
00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:52,730
hypnosis and that's when we found out

772
00:43:00,010 --> 00:42:55,550
what had happened she was taken out of

773
00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:00,020
the house and a lot of people when they

774
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:04,400
have had a UFO experience a lot of times

775
00:43:11,050 --> 00:43:08,000
it follows in the family line so that

776
00:43:15,130 --> 00:43:11,060
other members of the family also have

777
00:43:16,530 --> 00:43:15,140
things happening to them that's right

778
00:43:19,329 --> 00:43:16,540
I've heard that it you know it can be

779
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:19,339
generational you know it happens and

780
00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:21,410
then it it will have happened to your

781
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:23,599
parents and your grandparents and and

782
00:43:33,310 --> 00:43:30,560
that sort of thing now now at some point

783
00:43:37,020 --> 00:43:33,320
after this major experience that

784
00:43:42,579 --> 00:43:37,030
involved your your whole family you

785
00:43:44,530 --> 00:43:42,589
ended up I at some point I guess you

786
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:44,540
weren't married anymore to your to your

787
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:48,560
husband and you you you went in did you

788
00:43:56,829 --> 00:43:53,410
move away from where you were living

789
00:43:59,890 --> 00:43:56,839
from the house and I had the first

790
00:44:03,810 --> 00:43:59,900
experience yes we moved from there and

791
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:03,820
it was later we had built a large home

792
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:08,050
and I had all seven children with me and

793
00:44:16,210 --> 00:44:11,599
unfortunately my ex-husband he had a

794
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:16,220
problem with drinking and hmm a lot of

795
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,119
stuff that happened that he's you know

796
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:21,280
disappeared and so forth

797
00:44:28,030 --> 00:44:24,170
it was hearing

798
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:28,040
I've handled a lot of hard times through

799
00:44:36,609 --> 00:44:33,890
my life like I'm fine yeah yeah now but

800
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:36,619
at some point you met your husband Bob

801
00:44:42,609 --> 00:44:39,890
and Bob you know I know we were talking

802
00:44:44,980 --> 00:44:42,619
yesterday about how that actually

803
00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:44,990
happened and it was kind of strange how

804
00:44:49,569 --> 00:44:46,910
it came about so I think you were

805
00:44:51,370 --> 00:44:49,579
driving clear across country headed like

806
00:44:53,950 --> 00:44:51,380
for New York or something and then you

807
00:44:55,569 --> 00:44:53,960
ended up just suddenly for no reason

808
00:44:58,450 --> 00:44:55,579
deciding to head straight to Florida

809
00:44:59,680 --> 00:44:58,460
instead yeah was something that was

810
00:45:01,809 --> 00:44:59,690
totally unplanned

811
00:45:04,539 --> 00:45:01,819
you know there is something that I'm

812
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:04,549
sure a lot of your listeners probably

813
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:06,710
want to know and that he didn't bring up

814
00:45:15,450 --> 00:45:10,400
so I will first before this place was

815
00:45:18,339 --> 00:45:15,460
ever written there were extensive

816
00:45:21,010 --> 00:45:18,349
investigations done on everything from

817
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:21,020
her backgrounds and things that happened

818
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:24,410
while she was this was supposedly going

819
00:45:29,319 --> 00:45:27,650
on like the power failure The Electric

820
00:45:31,210 --> 00:45:29,329
Company said yes there was a power

821
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:31,220
failure at that time but they couldn't

822
00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:35,210
verify why it happened also bet he went

823
00:45:42,339 --> 00:45:37,849
through lie-detector tests psychological

824
00:45:44,349 --> 00:45:42,349
examination psychiatric examination and

825
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:44,359
as a matter of fact at one point the

826
00:45:49,150 --> 00:45:46,609
psychiatrist was visiting us he stayed

827
00:45:52,299 --> 00:45:49,160
with us first till about five o'clock in

828
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:52,309
the morning and we were outside he was

829
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:54,530
ready to go home and a large cigar

830
00:46:01,359 --> 00:45:57,609
shaped cloud stopped over the house and

831
00:46:05,260 --> 00:46:01,369
he looked up and he noticed it and

832
00:46:06,819 --> 00:46:05,270
finally he said did you see that and I

833
00:46:13,150 --> 00:46:06,829
said yes but I wasn't gonna say anything

834
00:46:16,420 --> 00:46:13,160
until after you know this but anyway

835
00:46:20,799 --> 00:46:16,430
what happened with how we met I had had

836
00:46:24,460 --> 00:46:20,809
an experience in 1944 and in 1967 as

837
00:46:27,069 --> 00:46:24,470
well while 67 I was also taking a boy to

838
00:46:30,329 --> 00:46:27,079
craft I was given a physical examination

839
00:46:32,859 --> 00:46:30,339
a good deal of it I remembered

840
00:46:35,370 --> 00:46:32,869
consciously up to the point where they

841
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:35,380
took me aboard the craft for the exam

842
00:46:45,999 --> 00:46:42,649
and mm-hmm excuse me did you have not

843
00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:46,009
just memories of that I had well as I

844
00:46:50,919 --> 00:46:48,649
was I was on my way to the beach and I

845
00:46:52,839 --> 00:46:50,929
got to an area called the trap Rock and

846
00:46:55,089 --> 00:46:52,849
there was a railroad spur that went into

847
00:46:57,489 --> 00:46:55,099
that trap rock from there so they could

848
00:46:59,949 --> 00:46:57,499
haul the crushed stone and so forth out

849
00:47:02,589 --> 00:46:59,959
there were five men working on that

850
00:47:05,169 --> 00:47:02,599
railroad spur none of them were working

851
00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:05,179
they were all looking up in the sky so

852
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:07,640
hmm I looked up to see what it was that

853
00:47:15,569 --> 00:47:11,089
had attracted their attention and I saw

854
00:47:17,739 --> 00:47:15,579
two huge cigar shaped objects that were

855
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:17,749
brilliant I mean just like highly

856
00:47:22,389 --> 00:47:20,209
polished chrome reflecting in the

857
00:47:25,659 --> 00:47:22,399
sunlight and it was a beautiful clear

858
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:25,669
day that was very hardly a cloud in the

859
00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:29,119
sky well just a little ways down from

860
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:30,559
day where they were there was an area

861
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:32,569
where I could pull off the road which I

862
00:47:35,799 --> 00:47:35,089
did and I started watching these two

863
00:47:37,959 --> 00:47:35,809
things

864
00:47:39,999 --> 00:47:37,969
it was amazing there was no wings no

865
00:47:42,969 --> 00:47:40,009
tail section there obviously we're not

866
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:42,979
airplanes there was no exhaust no jet

867
00:47:47,799 --> 00:47:46,130
engines no noise so I watched them as

868
00:47:52,149 --> 00:47:47,809
they were headed toward New Haven

869
00:47:55,959 --> 00:47:52,159
Connecticut from where I was and a short

870
00:47:58,479 --> 00:47:55,969
time later after I stopped to smaller

871
00:48:00,279 --> 00:47:58,489
disc shaped objects dropped out at the

872
00:48:03,729 --> 00:48:00,289
bottom of these things one out of each

873
00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:03,739
one one went toward New Haven one went

874
00:48:08,499 --> 00:48:06,649
in the exact opposite directions so I

875
00:48:10,359 --> 00:48:08,509
still sat and I watched there were two

876
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:10,369
larger ones were out of sight thinking

877
00:48:15,879 --> 00:48:12,529
wow that was quite a thing whatever it

878
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:15,889
was started on my way to the beach again

879
00:48:21,909 --> 00:48:18,079
got a few miles down the road and this

880
00:48:24,249 --> 00:48:21,919
was a very rural area and all of a

881
00:48:26,739 --> 00:48:24,259
sudden I saw one of these smaller disc

882
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:26,749
shaped craft coming down to the left of

883
00:48:32,649 --> 00:48:29,599
me and it's kind of floating down like

884
00:48:34,269 --> 00:48:32,659
with a falling leaf motion and it got to

885
00:48:39,219 --> 00:48:34,279
a point several feet above the ground

886
00:48:41,949 --> 00:48:39,229
and it just stopped that is strange

887
00:48:44,169 --> 00:48:41,959
and I'm looking at this thing and all of

888
00:48:47,169 --> 00:48:44,179
a sudden there was a brilliant flash of

889
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:47,179
red light I could only compare it to

890
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:48,490
like a Ruby rhod

891
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:51,040
these are very very intense red light

892
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:54,610
and the next thing I know I'm not in my

893
00:48:59,850 --> 00:48:55,450
car anymore

894
00:49:03,210 --> 00:48:59,860
come inside this thing and it's totally

895
00:49:07,140 --> 00:49:03,220
strange because for one thing everything

896
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:07,150
is lit right we with there are no

897
00:49:12,090 --> 00:49:09,730
shadows but I cannot see one light bulb

898
00:49:14,010 --> 00:49:12,100
or fluorescent light or anything but

899
00:49:17,310 --> 00:49:14,020
it's almost as if the actual atmosphere

900
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:17,320
was lit inside there and there was one

901
00:49:22,770 --> 00:49:20,050
of these little grey beings very similar

902
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:22,780
to what Betty had seen except these guys

903
00:49:29,550 --> 00:49:27,250
had on skin tight red uniforms with a

904
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:29,560
lightning bolt on the left-hand side of

905
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:30,910
the chest or what looked like a

906
00:49:36,359 --> 00:49:33,910
lightning bolt but they had the large

907
00:49:40,350 --> 00:49:36,369
gray bulbous heads in the huge black

908
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:40,360
eyes and so on I was told to undress

909
00:49:47,130 --> 00:49:44,110
which I did mostly out of fear and I was

910
00:49:49,530 --> 00:49:47,140
put on a very odd table and I say odd

911
00:49:52,260 --> 00:49:49,540
because there were no straps or

912
00:49:54,990 --> 00:49:52,270
restraints on this table but once they

913
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:55,000
put me on it I could not move it was

914
00:49:59,250 --> 00:49:56,770
almost like somebody put superglue up

915
00:50:02,430 --> 00:49:59,260
and down my back I've had a little move

916
00:50:02,780 --> 00:50:02,440
in my head in my eyes and that was about

917
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:02,790
it

918
00:50:09,690 --> 00:50:06,730
they took samples of fingernail skin

919
00:50:12,690 --> 00:50:09,700
they moved my ankles they moved my head

920
00:50:16,620 --> 00:50:12,700
in different directions another thing

921
00:50:20,010 --> 00:50:16,630
that was really totally blew my mind as

922
00:50:25,620 --> 00:50:20,020
one of them was walking by me he turned

923
00:50:28,740 --> 00:50:25,630
from a solid physical being into a being

924
00:50:32,099 --> 00:50:28,750
of just life it was just the color just

925
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:32,109
faded out of them and that kind of you

926
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:37,570
know got my mind and in a real tizzy

927
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:40,570
because I didn't know what to expect and

928
00:50:46,020 --> 00:50:43,510
I wanted to get out of there in the

929
00:50:47,790 --> 00:50:46,030
worst way I wanted to get out if I if I

930
00:50:50,490 --> 00:50:47,800
told you I wasn't afraid I'd be lying

931
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:50,500
and they told me don't worry we're not

932
00:50:54,540 --> 00:50:53,290
gonna hurt you and all I'm thinking yeah

933
00:50:56,940 --> 00:50:54,550
you're not gonna hurt me but here I'm

934
00:50:59,130 --> 00:50:56,950
stuck on this table I can't move and

935
00:51:02,400 --> 00:50:59,140
that's I never since that point I've

936
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:02,410
been a little claustrophobic but anyway

937
00:51:07,820 --> 00:51:04,480
when they finished the last thing they

938
00:51:10,260 --> 00:51:07,830
did was scan me from head to foot with

939
00:51:11,180 --> 00:51:10,270
something like an x-ray machine I guess

940
00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:11,190
you'd call it

941
00:51:18,660 --> 00:51:15,280
and they gave up a pinkish white light

942
00:51:20,730 --> 00:51:18,670
very strange light that they scanned me

943
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:20,740
and then when they were done with me I

944
00:51:26,270 --> 00:51:23,680
was put back in my car and headed to the

945
00:51:29,610 --> 00:51:26,280
beach now the last thing I remember

946
00:51:32,580 --> 00:51:29,620
consciously was seeing this brilliant

947
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:32,590
flash of red light it should have taken

948
00:51:40,260 --> 00:51:34,510
me about a half hour to get to the beach

949
00:51:43,410 --> 00:51:40,270
but when I got there I was hungry I went

950
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:43,420
to a restaurant two and a half hours had

951
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:46,450
passed and I never knew where that name

952
00:51:53,250 --> 00:51:51,130
had gone until I had went with the

953
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:53,260
investigators in Connecticut and under

954
00:52:01,700 --> 00:51:58,450
what hypnosis so did you feel like

955
00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:01,710
though that something had happened or

956
00:52:08,970 --> 00:52:06,880
you know did you feel like uneasy yeah I

957
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:08,980
knew something was wrong I mean it that

958
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:11,200
part of my life was gone I mean it's

959
00:52:16,350 --> 00:52:14,050
just you know I knew the drive I'd done

960
00:52:19,380 --> 00:52:16,360
it a thousand times and it takes a half

961
00:52:22,980 --> 00:52:19,390
hour or so and yeah two and a half hours

962
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:22,990
in my life I couldn't account for then

963
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:24,610
and of course you couple that with

964
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:26,800
remembering seeing the two big cigar

965
00:52:33,090 --> 00:52:29,200
shaped things and then the smaller disc

966
00:52:35,220 --> 00:52:33,100
shaped craft and okay you get you've got

967
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:35,230
a problem here but what is it I didn't

968
00:52:39,630 --> 00:52:36,970
know four years until I under what

969
00:52:41,310 --> 00:52:39,640
hypnosis and I didn't tell anybody even

970
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:41,320
when I saw those things I told my

971
00:52:46,590 --> 00:52:44,050
parents and I told my best friend who

972
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:46,600
was a police officer in town at the time

973
00:52:55,380 --> 00:52:49,330
I didn't tell anybody else because I

974
00:52:59,660 --> 00:52:55,390
didn't want to end up how did your

975
00:53:02,520 --> 00:52:59,670
parents react to it well actually it

976
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:02,530
what was a little shocking to me as my

977
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:05,650
mother actually had had a sighting and

978
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:08,410
she said she remembered the inside of a

979
00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:11,920
craft but she would never until the day

980
00:53:15,930 --> 00:53:13,870
she died she would never undergo

981
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:15,940
hypnosis or pursue it in any way

982
00:53:25,980 --> 00:53:21,490
she was fearful of it my dad he was in

983
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:25,990
the aerospace industry and he was very

984
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:27,850
close mouth till the day he died he

985
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:30,610
rarely I mean he just didn't discuss it

986
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:32,050
with me

987
00:53:40,290 --> 00:53:35,410
you know I what he knew from his

988
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:40,300
position and his job I don't know but he

989
00:53:54,690 --> 00:53:50,110
just he can't talk about it so yeah how

990
00:53:56,940 --> 00:53:54,700
I met Betty which was this is where yeah

991
00:54:00,600 --> 00:53:56,950
so this is you'd gone through all this

992
00:54:04,590 --> 00:54:00,610
and then subsequent to that was this

993
00:54:07,020 --> 00:54:04,600
really bugging you because at some point

994
00:54:09,630 --> 00:54:07,030
you did you did figure out you know what

995
00:54:11,550 --> 00:54:09,640
had happened and then but you didn't

996
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:11,560
really have many people to talk to about

997
00:54:20,310 --> 00:54:16,810
it right you just talked to your parents

998
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:20,320
he told your best friend but you they

999
00:54:27,540 --> 00:54:22,570
couldn't really relate so much to what

1000
00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:27,550
you'd experienced no and so how did that

1001
00:54:34,980 --> 00:54:31,060
lead us to to Betty well a friend of

1002
00:54:37,260 --> 00:54:34,990
mine and I had a camp trailer and work

1003
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:37,270
was a little slow in Connecticut so we

1004
00:54:42,330 --> 00:54:39,130
were taking a ride around the country to

1005
00:54:44,490 --> 00:54:42,340
look for work in different areas and we

1006
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:44,500
had been down to the southern portion of

1007
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:46,720
the country were in Texas in California

1008
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:49,450
and Oregon and then we had started home

1009
00:54:57,570 --> 00:54:53,010
along the northern tier of the country

1010
00:54:59,970 --> 00:54:57,580
coming back to Connecticut and kind of

1011
00:55:04,560 --> 00:54:59,980
spur the moment I think Eddy suggested

1012
00:55:06,830 --> 00:55:04,570
that we go to Florida so just yeah we

1013
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:06,840
just went period so that's this is

1014
00:55:12,690 --> 00:55:09,280
several thousand miles out of our way

1015
00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:12,700
and we got the Florida and parked our

1016
00:55:19,830 --> 00:55:16,030
camp trailer on his sister-in-laws lon

1017
00:55:21,930 --> 00:55:19,840
and during the course of dinner one

1018
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:21,940
evening she mentioned she worked with a

1019
00:55:28,050 --> 00:55:25,450
woman that had had a UFO experience and

1020
00:55:29,730 --> 00:55:28,060
I said wow I have to talk to this woman

1021
00:55:32,130 --> 00:55:29,740
so I went

1022
00:55:33,210 --> 00:55:32,140
so everybody was working and she

1023
00:55:36,570 --> 00:55:33,220
wouldn't talk to me

1024
00:55:39,540 --> 00:55:36,580
the investigators his mother beware

1025
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:39,550
reporters she thought I was a reporter

1026
00:55:44,270 --> 00:55:42,400
and boy she gave me a hard time I mean

1027
00:55:47,099 --> 00:55:44,280
there's like she just wasn't important

1028
00:55:49,230 --> 00:55:47,109
so I kept it up and kept it up and

1029
00:55:52,859 --> 00:55:49,240
finally I got her to agree to to have

1030
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:52,869
lunch with me the next day and from that

1031
00:55:59,790 --> 00:55:54,609
point on I've been buying her lunch but

1032
00:56:02,010 --> 00:55:59,800
ever since you know I could talk to her

1033
00:56:05,070 --> 00:56:02,020
I wasn't afraid of being ridiculed

1034
00:56:08,849 --> 00:56:05,080
she knew what what I felt because she

1035
00:56:10,650 --> 00:56:08,859
already had these experiences so we got

1036
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:10,660
along you know right from the beginning

1037
00:56:17,820 --> 00:56:13,570
we got along terrific and we still do

1038
00:56:22,290 --> 00:56:17,830
for some reason it's amazing no that is

1039
00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:22,300
amazing in this day and age Betty when

1040
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:25,630
he told you yeah oh I know

1041
00:56:36,930 --> 00:56:30,000
congratulations on that betty was

1042
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:36,940
married all my life and then I got very

1043
00:56:44,849 --> 00:56:40,720
involved and it's been 35 years yeah

1044
00:56:48,170 --> 00:56:44,859
that is amazing when he was telling you

1045
00:56:50,970 --> 00:56:48,180
about his story Betty were you

1046
00:56:52,770 --> 00:56:50,980
recognizing things in his story that you

1047
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:52,780
could relate to and I mean did you feel

1048
00:57:01,250 --> 00:56:54,490
like he was telling the truth from the

1049
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:01,260
beginning really great I mean you know

1050
00:57:07,310 --> 00:57:04,810
you could see he was serious you know so

1051
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:07,320
that made me feel good to know that he

1052
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:10,330
really was trying to find out too what

1053
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:14,410
was going on you know so that that was

1054
00:57:19,310 --> 00:57:16,720
really good and but there were so many

1055
00:57:23,030 --> 00:57:19,320
things that were happening Renee that

1056
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:23,040
it's hard to recall everything because

1057
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:27,520
there were times that we we went through

1058
00:57:33,390 --> 00:57:30,490
some really difficult times not our

1059
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:33,400
marriage but with things happening in

1060
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:39,010
our household and also it seems like the

1061
00:57:43,250 --> 00:57:41,650
government surveillance and everything

1062
00:57:46,770 --> 00:57:43,260
we went through

1063
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:46,780
followed by unmarked cars our telephone

1064
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:48,690
was constantly bugged

1065
00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:51,370
Barba's better off telling you all those

1066
00:57:57,660 --> 00:57:55,510
things he kept track of a lot of it well

1067
00:58:00,330 --> 00:57:57,670
we definitely we're going to get into

1068
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,340
that after the next break which we're

1069
00:58:07,950 --> 00:58:02,640
going to take in just a couple minutes

1070
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:07,960
but so you guys basically once you

1071
00:58:12,270 --> 00:58:09,670
really figured out that you were both

1072
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:12,280
having the same genuine type of

1073
00:58:18,510 --> 00:58:16,000
experience then it wasn't too long where

1074
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:18,520
you guys were just together and ended up

1075
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:21,690
getting married and then did you have

1076
00:58:24,510 --> 00:58:24,010
continuing experiences after you got

1077
00:58:27,210 --> 00:58:24,520
married

1078
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:27,220
yeah did you have any experiences

1079
00:58:37,980 --> 00:58:33,520
together together yes and did you

1080
00:58:40,590 --> 00:58:37,990
remember remember any of those or did

1081
00:58:43,110 --> 00:58:40,600
you just kind of know oh something's

1082
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:43,120
happen again we better go and see what

1083
00:58:55,380 --> 00:58:51,390
parts parts were remembered prior to the

1084
00:58:58,050 --> 00:58:55,390
hypnosis we did yes and no musical

1085
00:59:04,940 --> 00:58:58,060
evidence traces left at different times

1086
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:04,950
and it's very unusual things not only

1087
00:59:13,020 --> 00:59:09,250
the UFO phenomena but paranormal things

1088
00:59:16,860 --> 00:59:13,030
were going on you know that it couldn't

1089
00:59:19,740 --> 00:59:16,870
explain and usually the paranormal is so

1090
00:59:22,980 --> 00:59:19,750
much harder to explain then you know

1091
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:22,990
when you that's being here with you and

1092
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:25,450
things are going on and you can you know

1093
00:59:30,540 --> 00:59:28,090
they're testing you and checking you

1094
00:59:33,180 --> 00:59:30,550
well you know exactly what's happening

1095
00:59:35,130 --> 00:59:33,190
but a lot of the paranormal things just

1096
00:59:37,830 --> 00:59:35,140
all of a sudden are there and happening

1097
00:59:41,220 --> 00:59:37,840
and you're wondering what is this why is

1098
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:41,230
this happening but I think we're open oh

1099
00:59:47,340 --> 00:59:43,090
there it that's what it is

1100
00:59:50,460 --> 00:59:47,350
you know and life is all around us it's

1101
00:59:52,830 --> 00:59:50,470
just that our eyes do not see it our

1102
00:59:55,740 --> 00:59:52,840
eyes are closed and probably for the

1103
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:55,750
best for our eyes to be closed because

1104
01:00:03,630 --> 00:59:56,770
probably seen

1105
01:00:05,340 --> 01:00:03,640
would be an extreme fear yeah I mean but

1106
01:00:09,780 --> 01:00:05,350
I wonder if they'll be a time when we're

1107
01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:09,790
ready for at all yeah but being told me

1108
01:00:18,410 --> 01:00:14,470
that that I would have to ring my 1967

1109
01:00:25,230 --> 01:00:18,420
encounter that I would have to forget

1110
01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:25,240
what had happened until my race which

1111
01:00:31,350 --> 01:00:28,720
leads me then it would start to open up

1112
01:00:33,330 --> 01:00:31,360
and I guess that is when a lot of the

1113
01:00:36,420 --> 01:00:33,340
information started to come out because

1114
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:36,430
the investigators were interested in and

1115
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:39,010
of course that's showing that people are

1116
01:00:45,210 --> 01:00:42,490
starting to awake to you know what else

1117
01:00:49,260 --> 01:00:45,220
is around in our world even though our

1118
01:00:52,050 --> 01:00:49,270
eyes absolutely and I think even I think

1119
01:00:54,690 --> 01:00:52,060
now it's even more so so it's funny that

1120
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:54,700
now you're you know sort of reimburse

1121
01:00:58,530 --> 01:00:56,890
back into the public eye but we're gonna

1122
01:01:00,480 --> 01:00:58,540
have to take another quick break and

1123
01:01:02,370 --> 01:01:00,490
when we come back I want to hear about

1124
01:01:04,290 --> 01:01:02,380
some of the paranormal activities I know

1125
01:01:07,290 --> 01:01:04,300
that our listeners would like to hear

1126
01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:07,300
and also about the harassment that

1127
01:01:11,730 --> 01:01:09,310
you've undergone we'll finally get into

1128
01:01:13,650 --> 01:01:11,740
that dark stuff alright we're going to

1129
01:01:16,109 --> 01:01:13,660
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1130
01:01:39,390 --> 01:01:16,119
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1131
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1170
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1173
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1174
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1175
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1176
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1178
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1179
01:04:06,530 --> 01:04:04,080
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1180
01:04:09,620 --> 01:04:06,540
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1181
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1182
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1183
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1184
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1185
01:04:29,950 --> 01:04:27,530
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1186
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1187
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:32,510
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1188
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1189
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:34,970
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1190
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1195
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1196
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1197
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1198
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1199
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1200
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1201
01:05:27,009 --> 01:05:07,269
of the troubadour calm

1202
01:05:31,249 --> 01:05:29,690
welcome back back to night-vision radio

1203
01:05:33,319 --> 01:05:31,259
I'm your host Renee Barnett we're

1204
01:05:36,650 --> 01:05:33,329
talking with Betty Andreasen Lucca and

1205
01:05:41,269 --> 01:05:36,660
Bob Lucca about their strange alien

1206
01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:41,279
abduction experiences and subsequent

1207
01:05:45,769 --> 01:05:42,809
occurrences we'll just put it that way

1208
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:45,779
now Betty before the break you were

1209
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:48,930
talking and in in Bob feel free to jump

1210
01:05:52,999 --> 01:05:51,450
in any time because I imagine you've

1211
01:05:55,430 --> 01:05:53,009
been a witness to some of this stuff too

1212
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:55,440
but you were talking about subsequent to

1213
01:05:59,989 --> 01:05:57,450
your experiences you started having a

1214
01:06:05,319 --> 01:05:59,999
lot of paranormal activity in the house

1215
01:06:14,479 --> 01:06:11,390
we've had different voices in the house

1216
01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:14,489
like there's a party going on and we

1217
01:06:23,299 --> 01:06:17,729
don't know where what's doing it we've

1218
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:23,309
had two psychic say that we have portals

1219
01:06:30,769 --> 01:06:27,890
open in our basement one under the

1220
01:06:33,559 --> 01:06:30,779
cellar stairs and the other is our way

1221
01:06:39,650 --> 01:06:33,569
on the opposite side young to the right

1222
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:39,660
there in the same area but on the

1223
01:06:44,839 --> 01:06:42,450
opposite side of it another portal is

1224
01:06:47,719 --> 01:06:44,849
open and we've had a lot of strange

1225
01:06:51,859 --> 01:06:47,729
things but we've also had the girls had

1226
01:06:55,099 --> 01:06:51,869
seen a / - a doe person more than once

1227
01:06:57,620 --> 01:06:55,109
in the house and I chased up what I

1228
01:07:00,559 --> 01:06:57,630
thought was a man that had entered our

1229
01:07:02,989 --> 01:07:00,569
basement there was only one way out I

1230
01:07:06,829 --> 01:07:02,999
followed this guy down into the basement

1231
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:06,839
and when I got there I was the only one

1232
01:07:12,650 --> 01:07:10,890
there we also had problems with lights

1233
01:07:16,069 --> 01:07:12,660
that would go on and off by themselves

1234
01:07:20,359 --> 01:07:16,079
in the house one morning we came down

1235
01:07:23,959 --> 01:07:20,369
and in the kitchen the kitchen had crown

1236
01:07:26,749 --> 01:07:23,969
molding all of the crown molding was on

1237
01:07:30,589 --> 01:07:26,759
the floor and all of the finishing nails

1238
01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:30,599
were still in the wall and at the same

1239
01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:33,599
time there was a big stainless steel pot

1240
01:07:37,700 --> 01:07:36,569
which has a rolled top edge and

1241
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:37,710
stainless steel

1242
01:07:44,060 --> 01:07:41,250
was very tough that pot split right

1243
01:07:46,130 --> 01:07:44,070
through the rolled edge and was also

1244
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:46,140
what looked like itching on some of our

1245
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:49,010
drinking glasses and this was

1246
01:07:55,690 --> 01:07:50,930
photographed by a professional

1247
01:07:57,950 --> 01:07:55,700
photographer from Massachusetts the

1248
01:08:01,790 --> 01:07:57,960
neighborhood kids were over one time

1249
01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:01,800
dancing with the two girls the light

1250
01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:03,359
started going off and on in the house

1251
01:08:13,579 --> 01:08:09,359
the kids the brothel ran for another

1252
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:13,589
like that for a long period of time even

1253
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:15,690
the investigators the police officer

1254
01:08:21,050 --> 01:08:17,759
Larry for us it was at our house with

1255
01:08:22,940 --> 01:08:21,060
his wife we were having dinner and we

1256
01:08:25,099 --> 01:08:22,950
had an out of here with glass shelves

1257
01:08:26,090 --> 01:08:25,109
and I'm not glass shelf was a glass

1258
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:26,100
dinner bell

1259
01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:29,279
well the Bell started to ring to Larry

1260
01:08:33,650 --> 01:08:31,440
the police officer jumped up and ran

1261
01:08:37,700 --> 01:08:33,660
over real quick to look at it

1262
01:08:40,490 --> 01:08:37,710
there was also liquor on that same shelf

1263
01:08:43,010 --> 01:08:40,500
the liquor was not moving it was not

1264
01:08:45,229 --> 01:08:43,020
disturbed in any way and yet that bell

1265
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:45,239
was ringing and that's just you know a

1266
01:08:49,340 --> 01:08:47,310
couple of examples of different types of

1267
01:08:52,249 --> 01:08:49,350
things that we'd experience we came home

1268
01:08:54,440 --> 01:08:52,259
one evening and from the movies I think

1269
01:08:57,620 --> 01:08:54,450
it was in Barb and I were sitting on the

1270
01:09:00,320 --> 01:08:57,630
chairs in the kitchen and all of a

1271
01:09:04,370 --> 01:09:00,330
sudden it was like a choir of angels

1272
01:09:12,730 --> 01:09:04,380
singing it was the most beautiful music

1273
01:10:06,110 --> 01:09:19,849
when was it coming from the window it

1274
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:06,120
was cool the windows were going through

1275
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:15,540
well now why do you think or do you have

1276
01:10:22,260 --> 01:10:19,120
any any opinion as to why that might be

1277
01:10:27,020 --> 01:10:22,270
happening I subsequent to your

1278
01:10:30,210 --> 01:10:27,030
experiences open to this as well because

1279
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:30,220
you know there's more than just this

1280
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:33,040
what we see with our eyes well we I

1281
01:10:39,470 --> 01:10:36,010
looked at it a little bit differently I

1282
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:39,480
look at it as we are living in an

1283
01:10:44,820 --> 01:10:41,920
interdimensional or multi-dimensional

1284
01:10:47,790 --> 01:10:44,830
universe and I think that the veil

1285
01:10:51,390 --> 01:10:47,800
between these dimensions has been

1286
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:51,400
growing thinner as time passes and also

1287
01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:53,770
many people who have been involved in

1288
01:10:59,520 --> 01:10:56,710
the UFO phenomena have had this almost

1289
01:11:03,930 --> 01:10:59,530
like poltergeist activity that seems to

1290
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:03,940
follow for some reason well that's only

1291
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:06,970
my opinion that's I can't prove and the

1292
01:11:12,690 --> 01:11:08,710
book that's interesting we are writing

1293
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:12,700
together the the title and it's lifting

1294
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:14,770
the veil we're going to try and show

1295
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:16,480
some of those other things that had

1296
01:11:22,260 --> 01:11:20,170
occurred Oh that'll be interesting now

1297
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:22,270
you said that you had photographed some

1298
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:24,610
of the some of the things or had them

1299
01:11:30,650 --> 01:11:26,890
photographed will there be any pictures

1300
01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:30,660
in in the book of any of that paranormal

1301
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:34,480
yet seeing any of that pictures they'll

1302
01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:38,320
be drawing those I'll be doing some line

1303
01:11:43,710 --> 01:11:40,720
drawings too because the picture in

1304
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:43,720
front of you there's a better idea of

1305
01:11:49,050 --> 01:11:46,480
what is happening you know and I guess

1306
01:11:51,450 --> 01:11:49,060
that's what the investigators we're

1307
01:11:54,210 --> 01:11:51,460
happy over because it helped them to

1308
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:54,220
also see about the craft all the

1309
01:12:00,050 --> 01:11:56,890
different the machinery I saw you know I

1310
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:00,060
think that might be partly why the

1311
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:03,010
government has been interested in us

1312
01:12:11,820 --> 01:12:08,530
because somebody broke into our real one

1313
01:12:13,710 --> 01:12:11,830
time and nothing was taken there was

1314
01:12:16,620 --> 01:12:13,720
expensive stuff in there but nothing was

1315
01:12:21,580 --> 01:12:16,630
taken but some drawings that I had of

1316
01:12:27,700 --> 01:12:24,610
the drawings were taken yeah they were

1317
01:12:30,370 --> 01:12:27,710
taken yep we were going to a lecture and

1318
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:30,380
we were away and when we came home the

1319
01:12:38,620 --> 01:12:36,710
door had been broken in and the

1320
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:38,630
interesting thing and this happened more

1321
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:41,570
than once but we lived in it was in a

1322
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:44,090
rural area and a campground so we had to

1323
01:12:48,370 --> 01:12:46,850
have a local state trooper come up to do

1324
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:48,380
the paperwork so I could get the

1325
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:51,650
insurance to replace the door and we

1326
01:12:55,570 --> 01:12:53,600
told them straight out that we thought

1327
01:12:57,310 --> 01:12:55,580
it was a government agency involved that

1328
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:57,320
we were heavily involved in the UFO

1329
01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:01,040
phenomena and the man was pretty good he

1330
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:02,510
said well look he said if I find

1331
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:05,570
anything out he said I will tell you the

1332
01:13:12,250 --> 01:13:08,170
following week I went down to the

1333
01:13:14,260 --> 01:13:12,260
troopers office to talk to him and he

1334
01:13:16,810 --> 01:13:14,270
had been transferred out of the area and

1335
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:16,820
he couldn't tell me where he went and

1336
01:13:22,450 --> 01:13:19,760
this also happened to me with an FAA

1337
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:22,460
official that came all the way down to

1338
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:25,610
our house from the Boston area because

1339
01:13:30,340 --> 01:13:27,890
of a black palette because of the black

1340
01:13:33,580 --> 01:13:30,350
helicopters he left a note on the

1341
01:13:36,970 --> 01:13:33,590
weekend and Tuesday when I called I was

1342
01:13:38,830 --> 01:13:36,980
told he had been transferred and they

1343
01:13:40,900 --> 01:13:38,840
didn't they didn't have a forwarding

1344
01:13:41,290 --> 01:13:40,910
address they couldn't tell me where he

1345
01:13:43,540 --> 01:13:41,300
went

1346
01:13:45,940 --> 01:13:43,550
yeah but anyway the government got

1347
01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:45,950
really interested after when the first

1348
01:13:51,130 --> 01:13:49,040
book came out first we started noticing

1349
01:13:53,770 --> 01:13:51,140
these black helicopters over the house

1350
01:13:55,390 --> 01:13:53,780
and they got more and more frequent and

1351
01:13:59,140 --> 01:13:55,400
lower and lower until one of our

1352
01:14:01,360 --> 01:13:59,150
neighbors a City Councilwoman started to

1353
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:01,370
document the times and base of these

1354
01:14:05,650 --> 01:14:02,960
flights because they were so low the

1355
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:05,660
windows would rattle in the house where

1356
01:14:11,620 --> 01:14:07,310
we moved from there the Cheshire

1357
01:14:13,690 --> 01:14:11,630
Connecticut and lo and behold the flight

1358
01:14:16,450 --> 01:14:13,700
stopped in erdan and they started in

1359
01:14:18,340 --> 01:14:16,460
Cheshire where we work not only did we

1360
01:14:21,460 --> 01:14:18,350
have the helicopter flights which were

1361
01:14:26,440 --> 01:14:21,470
black unmarked helicopters which I took

1362
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:26,450
many photos of with the IRS got well

1363
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:28,400
let's say they wanted to help us because

1364
01:14:33,490 --> 01:14:30,560
every year for several years they called

1365
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:33,500
us in for an audit so you know that they

1366
01:14:38,590 --> 01:14:35,330
could keep our finances straight for

1367
01:14:41,170 --> 01:14:38,600
we wouldn't have to worry about Nitin so

1368
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:41,180
we had the audits on the IRS we had

1369
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:43,970
these helicopters which I checked with

1370
01:14:48,970 --> 01:14:46,250
everyone every single Department of the

1371
01:14:50,850 --> 01:14:48,980
military the CIA the FBI the helicopter

1372
01:14:53,710 --> 01:14:50,860
manufacturers a Federal Aviation

1373
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:53,720
Administration no one could tell us

1374
01:14:59,080 --> 01:14:55,970
whose helicopters they were and they

1375
01:15:01,180 --> 01:14:59,090
flew illegally low over our house

1376
01:15:04,090 --> 01:15:01,190
because I was taking flying lessons at

1377
01:15:06,220 --> 01:15:04,100
the time and the regulations say yes a

1378
01:15:08,530 --> 01:15:06,230
helicopter can fly low but it has to be

1379
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:08,540
500 feet laterally away from your house

1380
01:15:12,580 --> 01:15:10,370
well these things had come right over

1381
01:15:14,530 --> 01:15:12,590
and low enough where I could take a

1382
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:14,540
baseball if I wanted and hit him would

1383
01:15:21,820 --> 01:15:17,570
not be a problem then we started to be

1384
01:15:24,220 --> 01:15:21,830
followed every place we went we were

1385
01:15:26,770 --> 01:15:24,230
these cars would be behind us and it was

1386
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:26,780
almost obvious they weren't very good at

1387
01:15:32,110 --> 01:15:30,290
it and as a young car I used to build

1388
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:32,120
race cars and I used to race on the

1389
01:15:37,390 --> 01:15:33,650
street because there was no racetracks

1390
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:37,400
where we live so several times I was

1391
01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:39,290
able to get behind these cars and get

1392
01:15:43,570 --> 01:15:40,400
the license plates

1393
01:15:46,210 --> 01:15:43,580
I gave them to police lieutenant Larry

1394
01:15:51,010 --> 01:15:46,220
Fawcett and when he ran the plates they

1395
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:51,020
came back as unissued so you know who's

1396
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:53,330
driving plates with unissued I mean

1397
01:16:03,070 --> 01:16:01,040
tires without issues exactly whether we

1398
01:16:05,130 --> 01:16:03,080
were in Florida Connecticut New

1399
01:16:09,310 --> 01:16:05,140
Hampshire didn't matter where we were

1400
01:16:11,050 --> 01:16:09,320
and the government knew I don't know if

1401
01:16:13,260 --> 01:16:11,060
they had our house bugged oh I'm gonna

1402
01:16:16,030 --> 01:16:13,270
give you one example you know Patricia

1403
01:16:18,250 --> 01:16:16,040
we were doing the Trisha Baker yeah I

1404
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:18,260
know I wanted to thank you for reminding

1405
01:16:22,180 --> 01:16:19,730
me because I wanted to thank the Trisha

1406
01:16:26,250 --> 01:16:22,190
on the air she's actually been a past

1407
01:16:28,990 --> 01:16:26,260
guest on my show a couple years ago and

1408
01:16:31,330 --> 01:16:29,000
she's working with the two of you in

1409
01:16:34,780 --> 01:16:31,340
promoting your book and in subsequent

1410
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:34,790
projects yeah and I really wanted to

1411
01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:37,610
thank her for arranging this for us

1412
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:41,360
because it's been just great now go

1413
01:16:46,750 --> 01:16:43,610
ahead Bob sorry okay we were doing a

1414
01:16:49,259 --> 01:16:46,760
private lecture at her home and Betty

1415
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:49,269
had just finished talking about earthy

1416
01:16:54,269 --> 01:16:51,489
[\h__\h] and I started to talk about the

1417
01:16:56,459 --> 01:16:54,279
black helicopters and all of a sudden

1418
01:16:58,709 --> 01:16:56,469
the noise came the window started to

1419
01:17:00,449 --> 01:16:58,719
rattle everyone looked out the windows

1420
01:17:03,719 --> 01:17:00,459
and there was the black helicopter

1421
01:17:06,599 --> 01:17:03,729
passing over the house now you might say

1422
01:17:08,489 --> 01:17:06,609
coincidence few weeks later we were

1423
01:17:09,449 --> 01:17:08,499
doing another private lecture in New

1424
01:17:11,699 --> 01:17:09,459
Britain Connecticut

1425
01:17:13,919 --> 01:17:11,709
Betty finished talking about our

1426
01:17:17,399 --> 01:17:13,929
experiences I started talking about the

1427
01:17:19,319 --> 01:17:17,409
helicopters along comes a helicopter

1428
01:17:21,719 --> 01:17:19,329
over New Britain over this was

1429
01:17:25,169 --> 01:17:21,729
Adventists home that we were doing a

1430
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:25,179
lecture and two weeks after that we were

1431
01:17:31,559 --> 01:17:27,449
doing a lecture at the house of a

1432
01:17:34,349 --> 01:17:31,569
contractor same exact thing they knew

1433
01:17:37,619 --> 01:17:34,359
where we were what was happening because

1434
01:17:40,889 --> 01:17:37,629
what happened was I was receiving some

1435
01:17:42,629 --> 01:17:40,899
messages from the beings at times and I

1436
01:17:45,209 --> 01:17:42,639
would write them down right away

1437
01:17:50,759 --> 01:17:45,219
whatever I was spoken to me I would

1438
01:17:52,859 --> 01:17:50,769
write down and for some reason as soon

1439
01:17:54,989 --> 01:17:52,869
as I started receiving those messages

1440
01:17:57,029 --> 01:17:54,999
and writing them down and evidently they

1441
01:17:58,649 --> 01:17:57,039
were listening in to the house because

1442
01:17:59,789 --> 01:17:58,659
all of a sudden we heard the [\h__\h] [\h__\h] [\h__\h]

1443
01:18:02,489 --> 01:17:59,799
[\h__\h] of them

1444
01:18:04,829 --> 01:18:02,499
helicopters copter coming to the house

1445
01:18:06,629 --> 01:18:04,839
evidently they were trying to hone in

1446
01:18:12,089 --> 01:18:06,639
thinking they were going to find out

1447
01:18:14,759 --> 01:18:12,099
where it was coming from you hear about

1448
01:18:17,459 --> 01:18:14,769
these oh sorry you hear about these

1449
01:18:19,889 --> 01:18:17,469
black helicopters you know a lot in

1450
01:18:22,019 --> 01:18:19,899
around the UFO subject and around people

1451
01:18:25,229 --> 01:18:22,029
that have had experiences or that are

1452
01:18:27,809 --> 01:18:25,239
looking into certain certain cases or

1453
01:18:30,869 --> 01:18:27,819
something I mean what do you think those

1454
01:18:32,669 --> 01:18:30,879
are all about are they because they

1455
01:18:36,209 --> 01:18:32,679
obviously see them you think they're

1456
01:18:38,879 --> 01:18:36,219
just intimidating or well we were doing

1457
01:18:41,399 --> 01:18:38,889
a lecture in Phoenix and a man came over

1458
01:18:43,619 --> 01:18:41,409
to me during the intermission and he was

1459
01:18:46,079 --> 01:18:43,629
to me he was obviously military had very

1460
01:18:49,799 --> 01:18:46,089
short cut hair he was following his

1461
01:18:51,239 --> 01:18:49,809
mid-thirties shiny black shoes a shirt

1462
01:18:54,539 --> 01:18:51,249
buttoned down the front

1463
01:18:56,909 --> 01:18:54,549
exactly even with his belt buckle to me

1464
01:18:59,789 --> 01:18:56,919
this was military or something and he

1465
01:19:03,390 --> 01:18:59,799
said we were always he said we are

1466
01:19:08,220 --> 01:19:03,400
sending the helicopters so we don't have

1467
01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:08,230
to hurt you that's what he said and so

1468
01:19:12,649 --> 01:19:10,960
my reply was well I guess you're gonna

1469
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:12,659
have to hurt me

1470
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:17,530
it's were intimidation and we've had

1471
01:19:22,290 --> 01:19:19,690
been driving along the road like in

1472
01:19:25,709 --> 01:19:22,300
northern parts of Massachusetts on route

1473
01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:25,719
to had to Huey helicopters take off from

1474
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:28,719
a field cross right over our car in a

1475
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:31,810
rural area at less than 50 feet and if

1476
01:19:35,669 --> 01:19:34,090
you don't think that's intimidating and

1477
01:19:38,490 --> 01:19:35,679
you ought to try hit something

1478
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:38,500
but if if someone wants to see them they

1479
01:19:43,890 --> 01:19:41,290
they can go on our website andreas an

1480
01:19:46,979 --> 01:19:43,900
affair comm and I have a number of

1481
01:19:49,770 --> 01:19:46,989
photos there of helicopters that I took

1482
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:49,780
over different residences that we were

1483
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:53,130
in over a period of many years they

1484
01:19:59,340 --> 01:19:56,050
harassed us in that manner I was in a

1485
01:20:02,250 --> 01:19:59,350
gun shot and I was outside in the car

1486
01:20:04,709 --> 01:20:02,260
and all of us he was looking at I don't

1487
01:20:07,169 --> 01:20:04,719
know what you're kind of buying an ar-15

1488
01:20:09,390 --> 01:20:07,179
yeah and all of a sudden the black

1489
01:20:13,169 --> 01:20:09,400
helicopter showed up in the it was

1490
01:20:15,060 --> 01:20:13,179
hovering over the back side of the shop

1491
01:20:17,939 --> 01:20:15,070
I don't know what they could hear it or

1492
01:20:22,020 --> 01:20:17,949
not but it was loud and there was a also

1493
01:20:26,399 --> 01:20:22,030
of reporters right from the Meriden

1494
01:20:29,970 --> 01:20:26,409
record that's seen it also I've been in

1495
01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:29,980
I was in a store looking at a wallpaper

1496
01:20:34,290 --> 01:20:31,870
because we were refurbishing the house

1497
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:34,300
and the thing was is they had all

1498
01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:37,120
windows in the front and I was they've

1499
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:40,510
got like like a book a large book where

1500
01:20:44,669 --> 01:20:42,610
you can check all the different types of

1501
01:20:47,490 --> 01:20:44,679
wallpaper and so I was turning the pages

1502
01:20:51,030 --> 01:20:47,500
all of a sudden a helicopter came over

1503
01:20:55,220 --> 01:20:51,040
in front and the guy had a camera and he

1504
01:20:57,810 --> 01:20:55,230
had his foot on the lower bars of the

1505
01:21:00,780 --> 01:20:57,820
helicopter and was taking pictures of me

1506
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:00,790
that the clerk came running in and says

1507
01:21:09,180 --> 01:21:03,280
oldest they're taking pictures of our

1508
01:21:11,790 --> 01:21:09,190
store so on another occasion which this

1509
01:21:15,060 --> 01:21:11,800
was funny we had gone to for Christmas

1510
01:21:16,799 --> 01:21:15,070
campground in Florida and there's a lot

1511
01:21:19,950 --> 01:21:16,809
of Pines there and we had

1512
01:21:22,169 --> 01:21:19,960
got a lot that was in a clearing and we

1513
01:21:24,450 --> 01:21:22,179
pulled our trailer in and we were just

1514
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:24,460
parking it and the small helicopter came

1515
01:21:30,750 --> 01:21:27,130
along stopped right over the clearing

1516
01:21:32,700 --> 01:21:30,760
and the man was taking our picture so I

1517
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:32,710
clicked on my camera out of the trailer

1518
01:21:42,839 --> 01:21:35,050
and while he was taking our picture I

1519
01:21:44,339 --> 01:21:42,849
took his photo photographing others well

1520
01:21:45,810 --> 01:21:44,349
I'm gonna be on the lookout now that

1521
01:21:47,250 --> 01:21:45,820
I've been talking to you guys I'm gonna

1522
01:21:49,669 --> 01:21:47,260
be on the lookout for those black

1523
01:21:57,540 --> 01:21:49,679
helicopters hovering around my house

1524
01:21:59,819 --> 01:21:57,550
I'm gonna call you if I see him not only

1525
01:22:02,220 --> 01:21:59,829
did we see them the police officer

1526
01:22:03,689 --> 01:22:02,230
Fawcett witnessed them a reporter from

1527
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:03,699
The Hartford Courant they came to our

1528
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:06,610
home to interview us yeah I had seen

1529
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:08,770
them our neighbors had seen them and

1530
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:10,570
documented him I'm it's not like it's

1531
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:21,419
many many people it's just really really

1532
01:22:30,810 --> 01:22:28,690
wild you wonder what net you know when

1533
01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:30,820
we were down in Florida also we were at

1534
01:22:35,129 --> 01:22:32,800
the laundromat and with all windows in

1535
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:35,139
their front and there was one lady there

1536
01:22:40,770 --> 01:22:38,050
sitting at a desk and all of a sudden a

1537
01:22:43,319 --> 01:22:40,780
man came in with his car he jumped out

1538
01:22:46,229 --> 01:22:43,329
came and we were in the front I was

1539
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:46,239
doing the wash and one of the machines

1540
01:22:52,339 --> 01:22:48,880
in front of the window there he started

1541
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:52,349
taking pictures and I saw we were in

1542
01:22:56,850 --> 01:22:55,090
washing our clothes and were wondering

1543
01:22:58,890 --> 01:22:56,860
what in the world was going on and I

1544
01:23:02,729 --> 01:22:58,900
asked a woman do you have this place up

1545
01:23:08,069 --> 01:23:02,739
for sale or something well luckily he

1546
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:08,079
got the number of the car when the man

1547
01:23:13,470 --> 01:23:10,960
took off and he gave it to Larry Fawcett

1548
01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:13,480
again and it was unissued so you know

1549
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:20,110
that it's a government car why I just

1550
01:23:26,220 --> 01:23:21,730
don't understand you know the

1551
01:23:27,899 --> 01:23:26,230
intimidation I guess what information

1552
01:23:30,689 --> 01:23:27,909
are there afraid that you're going to

1553
01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:30,699
give out that

1554
01:23:36,359 --> 01:23:34,169
who was that you haven't already given

1555
01:23:38,250 --> 01:23:36,369
they spent a ton of money for nothing

1556
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:38,260
because if they had come and asked us in

1557
01:23:42,739 --> 01:23:39,610
a nice way we would have told them

1558
01:23:45,060 --> 01:23:42,749
pretty much what they wanted to know but

1559
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:45,070
one other thing that happened to us was

1560
01:23:49,679 --> 01:23:47,530
really funny we were up in New Hampshire

1561
01:23:52,770 --> 01:23:49,689
and it was a little cool and we were

1562
01:23:54,750 --> 01:23:52,780
tempting so we put our tent down and we

1563
01:23:56,399 --> 01:23:54,760
had a large German Shepherd I put a

1564
01:23:58,799 --> 01:23:56,409
stake in the ground and put him right

1565
01:24:00,899 --> 01:23:58,809
outside the tent and the guy that was

1566
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:00,909
following us which was more than likely

1567
01:24:07,679 --> 01:24:04,449
FBI came and parked directly across from

1568
01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:07,689
us with his SUV and he gets out his tent

1569
01:24:11,909 --> 01:24:09,820
and the tent poles and all and he

1570
01:24:14,459 --> 01:24:11,919
couldn't put the thing together he was

1571
01:24:16,229 --> 01:24:14,469
cursing a blue streak and he finally

1572
01:24:21,870 --> 01:24:16,239
went in and slept in his car during the

1573
01:24:23,549 --> 01:24:21,880
night and the FBI I'm one occasion Betty

1574
01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:23,559
and I left for Florida in the middle of

1575
01:24:27,810 --> 01:24:25,360
night without telling anyone and that

1576
01:24:30,659 --> 01:24:27,820
was on like a Saturday evening and

1577
01:24:34,020 --> 01:24:30,669
Tuesday two FBI agents with photo ID

1578
01:24:36,779 --> 01:24:34,030
showed up at my job and they questioned

1579
01:24:38,580 --> 01:24:36,789
my co-workers and my supervisor so they

1580
01:24:43,049 --> 01:24:38,590
lost track of us because we left earnest

1581
01:24:45,569 --> 01:24:43,059
what kind of oh they were asking about

1582
01:24:47,489 --> 01:24:45,579
where you were yeah yeah they lost track

1583
01:24:48,899 --> 01:24:47,499
of us because we left about 2:30 in the

1584
01:24:54,569 --> 01:24:48,909
morning we got up hooked up our little

1585
01:24:58,339 --> 01:24:54,579
trailer went oh my goodness they were

1586
01:25:07,939 --> 01:25:01,080
we used to be anyway now that we've

1587
01:25:11,909 --> 01:25:07,949
gotten older a little more settled oh

1588
01:25:15,449 --> 01:25:11,919
man when they win it in question your

1589
01:25:16,949 --> 01:25:15,459
your co-workers an employer who did they

1590
01:25:23,370 --> 01:25:16,959
say they were did they say they were the

1591
01:25:25,379 --> 01:25:23,380
FBI oh yeah they had photo ID but Betty

1592
01:25:27,929 --> 01:25:25,389
and I did when we got back from Florida

1593
01:25:30,839 --> 01:25:27,939
we did go the FBI office and they said

1594
01:25:32,429 --> 01:25:30,849
they could neither confirm nor deny and

1595
01:25:35,069 --> 01:25:32,439
I asked him while we were there I said

1596
01:25:37,799 --> 01:25:35,079
why you tap on our telephone and he said

1597
01:25:42,389 --> 01:25:37,809
well in your case it's not us it's Air

1598
01:25:43,530 --> 01:25:42,399
Force intelligence my mother was sick

1599
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:43,540
and

1600
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:46,810
happened was I went to call to see that

1601
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:49,570
she was all right and they had the line

1602
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:51,850
to open Isis please get off the phone

1603
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:54,280
because my mother's ill I've got to call

1604
01:25:59,340 --> 01:25:57,010
her and then they hung right up and and

1605
01:26:02,400 --> 01:25:59,350
I was able to get her and another time

1606
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:02,410
was I had lifted up the phone and I

1607
01:26:08,430 --> 01:26:05,050
heard a woman say the director's office

1608
01:26:09,090 --> 01:26:08,440
and I said director of what and she hung

1609
01:26:15,810 --> 01:26:09,100
up

1610
01:26:19,290 --> 01:26:15,820
directory at one time and the man who

1611
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:19,300
sells the city directory was always on

1612
01:26:25,890 --> 01:26:23,050
his job away from the shop and he would

1613
01:26:28,650 --> 01:26:25,900
call in off and on to see what had to be

1614
01:26:31,380 --> 01:26:28,660
done and everything well he called in

1615
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:31,390
and he cut the Pentagon and he signed a

1616
01:26:37,620 --> 01:26:34,210
paper for me and told exactly he called

1617
01:26:45,570 --> 01:26:37,630
that number daily and yes he got the

1618
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:45,580
Pentagon well that is just too wild you

1619
01:26:51,540 --> 01:26:47,770
know what the music's starting to play

1620
01:26:53,970 --> 01:26:51,550
and we're all out of time I want to

1621
01:26:57,180 --> 01:26:53,980
thank you both Betty andreasson Lucca

1622
01:27:01,010 --> 01:26:57,190
and Bob Luca for being my special guest

1623
01:27:03,570 --> 01:27:01,020
tonight you've got an amazing story I

1624
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:03,580
recommend everybody to read the andreas

1625
01:27:08,460 --> 01:27:06,880
an affair and I cannot wait to see the

1626
01:27:11,010 --> 01:27:08,470
new book because it's going to have some

1627
01:27:14,370 --> 01:27:11,020
information again like Betty you said

1628
01:27:17,900 --> 01:27:14,380
it's important for all of us so I can't